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  Are You Ready for the Most Important Day of the Year?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 22:14 so when the hour came, he reclined at the table along with the apostles.

  and he said to them: “i have greatly desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer; 16 for i tell you, i will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of god.” 17 and accepting a cup, he gave thanks and said: “take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves, 18 for i tell you, from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.”.

  19 also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “this means my body, which is to be given in your behalf.

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  raymond frantz

  When will the peasants revolt and do away with this abhorrent celebration of denial 😡😡😡
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  Jeffro

  Indeed, dear friend looks like they create new congregations in countries that have no increase, something tells me this is to fudge the numbers
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  slimboyfat5 hours ago

  Did you notice which figures they stopped publishing this year?

  Correct they stopped reporting the money spend on pioneers this year is not in the report
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  https://youtu.be/PI7sN2RNrKE?si=lNVKLqCT6nuayV2Q
  

  • Branches of Jehovah’s Witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the Hong Kong Bethel that closed down recently)

  • Number of Lands Reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022)

  • Total Congregations: 118,177 (=up from 117,960, a surprising increase but nevertheless a miniscule increase of just 0.18% OR 217 congregations. Of course the real metric here should be how many KH's closed down but of course they won't release this information. Is it possible that they artificially increase the number of congregations to show an increase? Quite possibly)

  • Worldwide Memorial Attendance: 20,461,767 (=up from 19,721,672 a 3.75% increase OR 740,095 more attendants. They managed to get 3 quarters of a million people to deny Jesus' s ransom by denying the bread and the wine. A real success in Satan's report for 2023 but not a critical indicator for the success of the religion)

  • Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 22,312 (=up from 21,150 a 5,49% increase OR 1,162 more Partakers and potential candidates for Tony Morris' seat in heaven who was removed from this position last year. Again not a critical indicator more like a doctrinal nightmare for the Watchtower according to which these people should have died a long time ago)

  • Peak of Publishers: 8,816,562 (=up from 8,699,048 OR 1.35% increase. They are just about treading water but still a critical indicator that shows a minimal increase and can only be down to a natural increase of children of Jehovah's Witnesses joining the cult as Publishers, more like an inhouse increase. If they were sincere with their reports they would show how many left the religion in 2023 as they used to do in previous years but of course they are not going to do that and we know why)

  • Average Publishers Preaching Each Month: 8,625,042 (=up from 8,514,983 from the previous year, 110,059 more publishers OR just 1.29% increase from last year and a critical indicator of the moral of the religion. This is quite worrying since this is a miniscule increase and considering the fact that in 2022 we were still experiencing restrictions on ministry engagement due to the pandemic. Is is possible that this weak indicator has prompted all the recent changes in making reporting hours non mandatory and a silent admittance that the average Publishers per year will fall in negative numbers soon? They only know since they only have the true numbers)

  • Percentage of Increase Over 2022: 1.3 (=UP from 0.4 OR almost 1% increase, which is massive but can only be contributed to poor reporting in 2022 and natural growth from jw youngsters joining the religion or people getting baptised in 2023 because it wasn't possible last year due to pandemic, more like a backlog of baptisms from 2020-2022 )

  • Total Number Baptized : 269,517 (=up from 145,552 in 2022 , a massive 85.15% increase from the previous year OR an additional 124,045 baptised members. Of course this is not a reliable indicator since in 2022 we were still coming out of the pandemic and quite possibly many postponed their baptism due to lack of open venues or assemblies taking place in 2022. So if you want a more realistic number we need to go back to pre-pandemic numbers in 2019 were the ones baptised were 303,866. So compared to this number they are down almost by 35,000 baptisms OR 12.75% which is a massive decrease and crucial indicator that far less people are committing themselves to the religion by getting baptised)

  • Average Pioneer Publishers Each Month: 1,570,906 (=Up from 1,489,252 OR 5.5% increase, not a critical factor and not indicative of the success of the religion. Quite frankly considering how much they have relaxed the requirements to be a pioneer in recent years this number shows how little success this had, people are not so inclined joining the pioneer ranks as they did in yester years)

  • Average Auxiliary Pioneer Publishers Each Month: 738,457 (= UP from 381,310 from last year OR almost doubled from last year. This is not a critical indicator of the success of the religion and more likely an artificially inflated number since they decreased the requirements for pioneers in recent years)

  • Total Hours Spent in Field: 1,791,490,713 (=Up from 1,501,797,703 in 2022 but down from 2,088,560,437 in 2019 a decrease of 297,069,724 hours or a MASSIVE 14.22% decrease from pre pandemic levels!!! This is a critical indicator of the morale of the publishers and maybe even how happy they are with the current GB members since they are not as inclined to engage with the message of the society to the world. I

  • Average Bible Studies Each Month: 7,281,212 (=Up from 5,666,996 last year OR a 28.48% increase but compared to pre-pandemic 2019 figures of 9,618,182 Bible studies they are actually down by 2,336,970 Bible Studies or a massive decrease of 24 3% in Bible Studies!!! This is a critical indicator for the future of the religion.Even if you take into account that most of these Bible Studies are jw children still it shows that far less people are inclined to study in order to join the Witnesses in 2023)
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  The Role of Artificial Intelligence in Religion.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. social
  2. current

  i spotted this article on an irish news channel's webpage and thought you might have something to say about the idea.

  perhaps in the future jws will replace their robotic elders with actual robots, what do you think?

  we could consult with ai jesus to see what he thinks about the idea.

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  raymond frantz

  I'd say you're on to something ,and I don't mean idea, I mean substance👍😂
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  happy new year!

  time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

  he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

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  369 please
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  A City Having Real Foundations.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  someone asked me recently when did i start to have doubts as an elder about what i was teaching from the platform.. i have given it a lot of thought and i can say that it was when i was delivering a public talk about the book of hebrews.

  so i paused and read it again.. i looked at the audience and said to them let's look at the cross-reference for this verse which is hebrews 12:22 and i read that verse.

  after which i remember saying "and this is how the outline puts it.... " and i read from the outline verbatim.. abraham was not looking forward to an earthly kingdom hope.

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  @ElderBerry

  JWs are the only ones who think Michael is Jesus, their reasoning is only that “who else could be powerful enough to battle with Satan and his demons and throw them out of heaven.”
  

  By all accounts Jesus is Michael of the Old Testament, don't fall for the Trinity nonsense, another cult like the jws, that use name calling and mental gymnastics to prove the Trinity.

  The same people who take offence in Jesus being the Michael the Archangel are the same people tgat believe that Jesus was the "angel of the Lord" in the Old Testament
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  A City Having Real Foundations.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  someone asked me recently when did i start to have doubts as an elder about what i was teaching from the platform.. i have given it a lot of thought and i can say that it was when i was delivering a public talk about the book of hebrews.

  so i paused and read it again.. i looked at the audience and said to them let's look at the cross-reference for this verse which is hebrews 12:22 and i read that verse.

  after which i remember saying "and this is how the outline puts it.... " and i read from the outline verbatim.. abraham was not looking forward to an earthly kingdom hope.

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  If there are two hopes - heaven & earth - then some mental gymnastics are required to alter these verses:
  

  (John 10:16) "...they will become one flock, one shepherd." (A flock in heaven and earth? That's two flocks!)

  (Ephesians 4:4) . . .the one hope . . . (not two!)

  @ BoogerMan : The Watchtower is the only Christian denomination that teaches this nonsense of 144,000 going to heaven and a great crowd staying here on earth.

  All other denominations including the Bible and the first Christians believe that these two groups are the Jewish and the Gentile Christians, still all Christians, still one hope.

  In anyone's reasoning, a ransom never exchanges/replaces with something better or greater, and since Adam forfeited perfect life on earth for every single one of his prospective descendants, surely that is what the ransom should return????????

  (1 Corinthians 15:22) For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.

  This is not Biblical, the chapter you are quoting in 1 Corinthians speaks for our new bodies raised into immortality in heaven in the same way Jesus did.

  So it is with the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised up in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised up in power. 44 It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
  

  It is quite clear from these verses that the RANSOM sacrifice has nothing to do with what body you are getting in the New system, in fact the opposite is true.

  The first Adam became a living earthly person and so are we, but the last Adam=Jesus became a life giving spirit and so we will too.
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  A City Having Real Foundations.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  someone asked me recently when did i start to have doubts as an elder about what i was teaching from the platform.. i have given it a lot of thought and i can say that it was when i was delivering a public talk about the book of hebrews.

  so i paused and read it again.. i looked at the audience and said to them let's look at the cross-reference for this verse which is hebrews 12:22 and i read that verse.

  after which i remember saying "and this is how the outline puts it.... " and i read from the outline verbatim.. abraham was not looking forward to an earthly kingdom hope.

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  An example is the film The Book Of Eli. The bad guy wants to get a Bible in post apocalyptic times because it can be played like a musical instrument to control people. History proves this to be true.
  

  ExBethelitenowPIMA
  

  Just because Jehovah's Witnesses misinterpret the Bible by cherry picking verses doesn't mean the Bible is not correct. You still haven't provided me an example from the Bible
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  Do you know him?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi all.. i have recently started following larchwood on x (formerly twitter).

  he (i'm assuming it is a 'he') posts some brilliant stuff and great links.

  i don't think he's on this site.. well worth checking it out in my opinion..

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  raymond frantz

  Yes he is great, I follow him too